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	<title>Comments on: System Center Mobile Device Manager 2008 &#8211; Install Guide (No Gateway) &#8211; Part 1</title>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
		<link>http://mobilitydojo.net/2008/09/22/system-center-mobile-device-manager-2008-install-guide-no-gateway-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-2175</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 07:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gateway server is optional (though highly recommended) so you can get away with one server for the Enrollment and Device Management roles. And if you install a domain controller on the same box you can technically get away with only one server in your test lab. You&#039;ll have another challenge though if you are using GPMC for managing group policies as this will not run on 64-bit.

You have already found the correct docs on TechNet regarding the extra steps you need to take if you want to co-locate SCMDM and a DC. I have not attempted this myself, but I have heard reports from others that it can be done if the steps are followed closely. So I don&#039;t know why it would be failing in your lab - maybe there is another issue that is not related to the co-location of roles. Have you run the Best Practice Analyzer to see if it reports nay other issues?

I don&#039;t know if you are using physical boxes, or virtual servers, but I would highly recommend having a separate DC. You can get away with almost no CPU, and only 256MB RAM on a domain controller running W2K3 32-bit. (My DC at home is an old HP Pavilion - probably at least 6 years old, don&#039;t remember.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gateway server is optional (though highly recommended) so you can get away with one server for the Enrollment and Device Management roles. And if you install a domain controller on the same box you can technically get away with only one server in your test lab. You&#8217;ll have another challenge though if you are using GPMC for managing group policies as this will not run on 64-bit.</p>
<p>You have already found the correct docs on TechNet regarding the extra steps you need to take if you want to co-locate SCMDM and a DC. I have not attempted this myself, but I have heard reports from others that it can be done if the steps are followed closely. So I don&#8217;t know why it would be failing in your lab &#8211; maybe there is another issue that is not related to the co-location of roles. Have you run the Best Practice Analyzer to see if it reports nay other issues?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you are using physical boxes, or virtual servers, but I would highly recommend having a separate DC. You can get away with almost no CPU, and only 256MB RAM on a domain controller running W2K3 32-bit. (My DC at home is an old HP Pavilion &#8211; probably at least 6 years old, don&#8217;t remember.)</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://mobilitydojo.net/2008/09/22/system-center-mobile-device-manager-2008-install-guide-no-gateway-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-2156</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 22:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the absolute smallest infrastructure needed for this kind of a lab? Could you have combined both the DC and SCMDM servers? The technet articles indicate steps to be done if MDM roles are running on a DC or CA. Yet this walkthrough as well as their &quot;Integrated configuration&quot; in the technet article do not use this design. I am asking since that was my goal, and I am running into trouble with it. I have done all steps indicated here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd261919.aspx
 yet I still get the error indicated under &quot;General Access Denied Error When You Enroll a Device&quot; at http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd261751.aspx.

Any help would be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the absolute smallest infrastructure needed for this kind of a lab? Could you have combined both the DC and SCMDM servers? The technet articles indicate steps to be done if MDM roles are running on a DC or CA. Yet this walkthrough as well as their &#8220;Integrated configuration&#8221; in the technet article do not use this design. I am asking since that was my goal, and I am running into trouble with it. I have done all steps indicated here: <a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd261919.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd261919.aspx</a><br />
 yet I still get the error indicated under &#8220;General Access Denied Error When You Enroll a Device&#8221; at <a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd261751.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd261751.aspx</a>.</p>
<p>Any help would be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
		<link>http://mobilitydojo.net/2008/09/22/system-center-mobile-device-manager-2008-install-guide-no-gateway-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must have forgotten to include that step, Dave :)
Not being very fluent with WSUS and SQL I did not know this was required. However I always run Windows Update after installing servers/apps from Microsoft, so I already had SP2 in place when installing WSUS, and thus I did not encounter an issue with this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must have forgotten to include that step, Dave <img src='http://mobilitydojo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Not being very fluent with WSUS and SQL I did not know this was required. However I always run Windows Update after installing servers/apps from Microsoft, so I already had SP2 in place when installing WSUS, and thus I did not encounter an issue with this.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave [MSFT]</title>
		<link>http://mobilitydojo.net/2008/09/22/system-center-mobile-device-manager-2008-install-guide-no-gateway-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave [MSFT]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should also install SQL Server 2005 SP2, if you want WSUS to use the local SQL Server instead of maintaining it&#039;s own database.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should also install SQL Server 2005 SP2, if you want WSUS to use the local SQL Server instead of maintaining it&#8217;s own database.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
		<link>http://mobilitydojo.net/2008/09/22/system-center-mobile-device-manager-2008-install-guide-no-gateway-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enterprise Edition is not required for the MDM server, but the base image I use in my lab is Enterprise. Call it laziness if you will not having multiple base images :) For a simple lab you should be good with Standard as well, and for production use - well it depends on whether you need any of the other features in Enterprise :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enterprise Edition is not required for the MDM server, but the base image I use in my lab is Enterprise. Call it laziness if you will not having multiple base images <img src='http://mobilitydojo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  For a simple lab you should be good with Standard as well, and for production use &#8211; well it depends on whether you need any of the other features in Enterprise <img src='http://mobilitydojo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: P</title>
		<link>http://mobilitydojo.net/2008/09/22/system-center-mobile-device-manager-2008-install-guide-no-gateway-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the configuration above, why is Windows Ent Ed required for OS of the virtual MDM server? I only thought Ent Ed was needed on the DC/CA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the configuration above, why is Windows Ent Ed required for OS of the virtual MDM server? I only thought Ent Ed was needed on the DC/CA.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://mobilitydojo.net/2008/09/22/system-center-mobile-device-manager-2008-install-guide-no-gateway-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention the Forest Functional Level also needs to be right. You can either have :

Forest Level = Windows 2000 &amp; 
Domain Level = Windows 2000 Native
or
Forest Level = Windows 2000 &amp; 
Domain Level = Windows 2003
or
Forest Level = Windows Server 2003 &amp;
Domain Level = Windows Server 2003

Clear as Mud! So you might want to recommend using the last option, so that people don&#039;t get confused. 

Cheers - Wayne
Airloom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention the Forest Functional Level also needs to be right. You can either have :</p>
<p>Forest Level = Windows 2000 &amp;<br />
Domain Level = Windows 2000 Native<br />
or<br />
Forest Level = Windows 2000 &amp;<br />
Domain Level = Windows 2003<br />
or<br />
Forest Level = Windows Server 2003 &amp;<br />
Domain Level = Windows Server 2003</p>
<p>Clear as Mud! So you might want to recommend using the last option, so that people don&#8217;t get confused. </p>
<p>Cheers &#8211; Wayne<br />
Airloom</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
		<link>http://mobilitydojo.net/2008/09/22/system-center-mobile-device-manager-2008-install-guide-no-gateway-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are of course correct Wayne, that mixed/interim would not be a good choice. I&#039;ll update the post.
Interestingly Microsoft are not consistent in their naming scheme - if you press &quot;Help&quot; in the dialog box where you raise the functional level the following four levels are listed in the explanation article:
Windows 2000 Mixed
Windows 2000 Native
Windows Server 2003 Interim
Windows Server 2003
As far as I know support for 2008 Domain Functional Level will be included in Service Pack 1 for SCMDM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are of course correct Wayne, that mixed/interim would not be a good choice. I&#8217;ll update the post.<br />
Interestingly Microsoft are not consistent in their naming scheme &#8211; if you press &#8220;Help&#8221; in the dialog box where you raise the functional level the following four levels are listed in the explanation article:<br />
Windows 2000 Mixed<br />
Windows 2000 Native<br />
Windows Server 2003 Interim<br />
Windows Server 2003<br />
As far as I know support for 2008 Domain Functional Level will be included in Service Pack 1 for SCMDM.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://mobilitydojo.net/2008/09/22/system-center-mobile-device-manager-2008-install-guide-no-gateway-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Post Disappeared</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Post Disappeared</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://mobilitydojo.net/2008/09/22/system-center-mobile-device-manager-2008-install-guide-no-gateway-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great guild and great site, In the guild you might want to specify &quot;Native&quot; Domain Functional Level. As &quot;2003 Mixed Functional Level&quot; will not work. You can use &quot;2000 Native&quot; and &quot;2003 Native&quot;. mdm uses lots of universal groups which require &quot;Native&quot;. I&#039;m sure it will not be long before we can use &quot;2008 Native&quot; as well.
Cheers Wayne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great guild and great site, In the guild you might want to specify &#8220;Native&#8221; Domain Functional Level. As &#8220;2003 Mixed Functional Level&#8221; will not work. You can use &#8220;2000 Native&#8221; and &#8220;2003 Native&#8221;. mdm uses lots of universal groups which require &#8220;Native&#8221;. I&#8217;m sure it will not be long before we can use &#8220;2008 Native&#8221; as well.<br />
Cheers Wayne</p>
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